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Post by ddt on Aug 15, 2006 1:05:07 GMT 1
Simple question with simple answers. As you may have noticed, there has been a lot of hostility towards Big Show ever since he came to ECW. Do you think he should be there?
I'm voting yes. I think that he's adapted to their style well, and it clearly shows that he is trying. Obviously, a lot of the old school fans are a little ignorant and don't accept anyone who wasn't in the original ECW. But it's obvious that WWE people were going to be drafted, and so I think Show is one of the people who fit.
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Post by Stare on Aug 15, 2006 1:56:52 GMT 1
For the old ECW? No, I dont think show would be a good fit. But for this NEW ECW? I think The Big Show is doing fine, and at least he is being used. HE actually is looking to be invincible, which is good, and is at least semi-interesting,
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Post by Keith Williams on Aug 15, 2006 3:01:28 GMT 1
I voted yes. Show is being used better now in ECW then he has on Raw and for the most part Smackdown!. I wish that Show would had been in the old ECW. Could You imagine the monster that Heyman would had made him? Heyman did it to 911 and he didn't have half the talent of Big Show. If Heyman was given full creative control over Show, you would see his full potential.
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Post by Faster Pussycat! on Aug 15, 2006 23:07:26 GMT 1
I don't like Show as Champ. Firstly I don't think Show has any business as the head of a brand that is supposed to be a "New Breed". Show is nothing like old ECW, or this new ECW they're trying to do. The Big Show has always been a cartoon character to me, I think most if not all of his matches are boring and akward. I would like it if Show was fired, or at least taken off tv.
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Post by brockandsable on Aug 16, 2006 21:15:15 GMT 1
I like Show's activity in the new ECW, but I don't like him as champ. I agree with Nin Horror that he is a bit of a cartoon, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's bad when you're at your father's funeral and the Big Boss Man ties a rope to the casket and drives off with the corpse and your fat ass tries to grab it while moving.
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Post by eCo on Sept 28, 2006 20:48:52 GMT 1
I don't like Show as Champ. Firstly I don't think Show has any business as the head of a brand that is supposed to be a "New Breed". Show is nothing like old ECW, or this new ECW they're trying to do. The Big Show has always been a cartoon character to me, I think most if not all of his matches are boring and akward. I would like it if Show was fired, or at least taken off tv. Would you like him better if he was 5'6" and could do triple backflips off the post. Then you would probably think he's worth it. Truth is that I really like the Big Show, and even though I perfer to see him as a face, I think he fits well on this new ECW show. Fans love to hate him because he's not a ECW original but at the same time he seems like a challenge. On another note, do any of you think that his new music sounds a lot like something from south park or anything from Tray Parker and Matt Stone.
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Post by Aladdin on Sept 28, 2006 20:55:54 GMT 1
Would you like him better if he was 5'6" and could do triple backflips off the post. Then you would probably think he's worth it. Jesus Christ, man. You need to stop saying shit like this all the time when people say that someone that you like is a crap wrestler. Do Benoit or Angle do triple back flips off the post? No. And the IWC love them. Getting over this stupid idea of yours that the IWC wants to see people doing crazy high flying moves, because all they want is to see good wrestling. People like Big Show aren't great wrestlers. The guy is great for his size but that doesn't mean he is simply great. And, if you want me to name you someone outside of the WWE circle who is a great mat wrestler then look no further than Brian Danielson. ROH Champ. IWC love him.
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Post by Faster Pussycat! on Sept 28, 2006 23:30:42 GMT 1
^^^ Nigel McGuiness, No Bumps Required.
Yes eCo, I would like Big Show if he could do triple moonsaults and such, because then he would be able to do something interesting for the first time in his career.
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Post by Stare on Sept 29, 2006 1:13:41 GMT 1
^I do enjoy his new finishing move with the million dollar dream to a backbreaker, then the opponent is choked out or hurled across the ring.
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Post by Aladdin on Sept 29, 2006 17:43:15 GMT 1
^ I liked it when he did it for the first time at ECW ONS but that's because he did it on Tony Mamaluke and he was able to throw him up really high but when he does it on the bigger guys, it sucks.
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Post by Stare on Sept 29, 2006 17:58:55 GMT 1
I think the throw sucks on bigger guys, and he usually chokes them out instead of throwing them. But, the actual move itself of going from a Million Dollar Dream to a backbreaker is still impactful
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Post by Faster Pussycat! on Sept 29, 2006 18:52:42 GMT 1
Rod Strong has a monopoly on backbreakers, though.
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Post by brockandsable on Sept 29, 2006 19:00:58 GMT 1
I wouldn't be surprised if Big Show runs with the belt until Mania 23 where he will be "challenged" by the immortal Hulk Hogan. You don't think Hogan wants his name added to the list of competitors who held the WWE/WCW/ECW World Titles?
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Post by Stare on Sept 29, 2006 19:03:45 GMT 1
Dear God, I hope that's not the plan.
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Post by brockandsable on Sept 29, 2006 19:07:15 GMT 1
^I believe you said the exact same thing last year when I mentioned Cena/HHH as the main event for Mania 22. ;D
Show has proved healthy the past couple of years and they may trust him with the belt.
Plus, knowing Hogan's ego, he'd want to "be the man" to defeat the man who held all three titles first.
Holly should have the "strap" IMO.
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Post by Aladdin on Sept 29, 2006 21:23:12 GMT 1
Not sure about that. Holly is very underrated IMO but he's not that good. Honestly, i don't think anyone else on ECW deserves the belt. Sabu maybe. RVD is a druggie and just shit, so doesn't deserve it. Sandman doesn't know any actual wrestling moves; he only swings his singapore cane around. Dreamer is too old and has been buried many a time. CM Punk isn't read just yet. Test is a future prospect and he would be my second pick for a heel ECW champ.
Belt should stay on Big Show for a while.
Oh yeah, and Roderick Strong's backbreakers own Big Show's.
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Post by ddt on Sept 30, 2006 15:38:26 GMT 1
And, if you want me to name you someone outside of the WWE circle who is a great mat wrestler then look no further than Brian Danielson. ROH Champ. IWC love him. Trained me before... just had to point that out.
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Post by eCo on Oct 6, 2006 22:01:51 GMT 1
Would you like him better if he was 5'6" and could do triple backflips off the post. Then you would probably think he's worth it. Jesus Christ, man. You need to stop saying shit like this all the time when people say that someone that you like is a crap wrestler. Do Benoit or Angle do triple back flips off the post? No. And the IWC love them. Getting over this stupid idea of yours that the IWC wants to see people doing crazy high flying moves, because all they want is to see good wrestling. People like Big Show aren't great wrestlers. The guy is great for his size but that doesn't mean he is simply great. And, if you want me to name you someone outside of the WWE circle who is a great mat wrestler then look no further than Brian Danielson. ROH Champ. IWC love him. First off, I think the Big Show is a great wrestler. Sure he lacks mobility, but that's because he's a big guy, not only a big guy but the biggest one. He can still execute his moves well, and he does have a good range of moves. Not only that, but he is always willing to take huge bumps. Sadly people still bash him, and they fail to see how much he has sacraficed for the WWE. Remember the bump he took when Brock Lesnar suplexed him off the ring post in 2003 smackdown!?
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Post by Faster Pussycat! on Oct 6, 2006 22:06:59 GMT 1
A superplex? Whatever.
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Post by Stare on Oct 6, 2006 23:45:11 GMT 1
Yeah, these guys are trained to bump, and don't forget that all "taking a superplex" is is a front-flip from the top rope and landing on your back. So, for people who actually practice bumps, that shouldnt be a big deal.
For all you wrestling marks who say "bumping still hurts", I'm not negating that in the slightest, but I'm saying a superplex isn't a big deal in comparison.
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Post by ddt on Oct 8, 2006 16:54:50 GMT 1
It is when you've been wrestling for years.
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Post by Faster Pussycat! on Oct 9, 2006 0:07:38 GMT 1
Maybe for 30 years.
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Post by eCo on Oct 9, 2006 21:27:37 GMT 1
Suplex/Superplex, whatever. My point is that he deserves much more credit than people give him now. Oh, and during that night 3 years ago it was a serious bump and even he stated it. He is a 500 pound man that was thrown in the air and had to land hard flat on the ring. It's just like pick up a large animal like a horse with a crane and dropping it. To say that "it wasn't a big deal" is just plain ignorant.
Oh, and along with that, fans (mostly marks) are prone to harass him more than any other superstar. Serious, when I watch ECW, it made me sick to see some fat ass spat on the Big Show, just because he thought he was trying to "prove a point". Oh and in the Summer of 2004, at a house show in his own home town (Tampa), he was with Eddie and he was messing around with his daughters after the show. Yet there are even jerks in his own home town who were that big of an asshole to chuck a soda can at his youngest daughter. While Eddie was bitching off at the two guys, the Big Show was the one who kept his cool, because HE HAD to keep his cool. Just like all of the other times when drunk fans wanted to pick a fight with him after shows., and it has happened A LOT. A worse example was that in 1999, when the Big Show was first in the WWF, and some drunk fan assaulted him, and the Big Show pushed him away in self defense. Because of that, that asshole fucking sued him!! This is the kind of shit the Big Show always had to deal with.
I'm just saying that the Big Show deserves A LOT of respect.
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Post by Faster Pussycat! on Oct 10, 2006 1:22:12 GMT 1
All that aside, he's still as talented as a baboon with downs syndrome.
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Post by Spackle on Oct 11, 2006 2:30:42 GMT 1
Suplex/Superplex, whatever. My point is that he deserves much more credit than people give him now. Oh, and during that night 3 years ago it was a serious bump and even he stated it. He is a 500 pound man that was thrown in the air and had to land hard flat on the ring. It's just like pick up a large animal like a horse with a crane and dropping it. To say that "it wasn't a big deal" is just plain ignorant. Oh, and along with that, fans (mostly marks) are prone to harass him more than any other superstar. Serious, when I watch ECW, it made me sick to see some fat ass spat on the Big Show, just because he thought he was trying to "prove a point". Oh and in the Summer of 2004, at a house show in his own home town (Tampa), he was with Eddie and he was messing around with his daughters after the show. Yet there are even jerks in his own home town who were that big of an asshole to chuck a soda can at his youngest daughter. While Eddie was bitching off at the two guys, the Big Show was the one who kept his cool, because HE HAD to keep his cool. Just like all of the other times when drunk fans wanted to pick a fight with him after shows., and it has happened A LOT. A worse example was that in 1999, when the Big Show was first in the WWF, and some drunk fan assaulted him, and the Big Show pushed him away in self defense. Because of that, that asshole fucking sued him!! This is the kind of shit the Big Show always had to deal with. I'm just saying that the Big Show deserves A LOT of respect. I wasn't aware thet you knew Mr. Show.
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