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Post by Reaper on Aug 30, 2004 19:58:31 GMT 1
Well, we know that HBK will return at Unforgiven. How will he do it? Do you think he'll have a match?
Also, HHH vs. Randy Orton should be, if not too early, pretty damn good.
La Resistance vs. Rhyno & Tajiri is the only other match announced at present. Any thoughts on that?
Get to discussing!
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Post by Scream on Aug 31, 2004 18:30:23 GMT 1
1) Orton vs HHH should be decent. Although I don't think there will be a clear cut winner. I'm saying HHH could win by DQ or vice versa.
2) If Rhyno and Tajiri don't win the tag team gold I'll be suprised. They have been battling long enough. Personally I'm not a big fan of Tajiri and Rhyno as tag champs.
3) HBK vs Kane. HBK will win prob from interference from Matt Hardy or Lita. I have a feeling Kane is going to be the one who wants a divorce from Lita. It would be a pretty comical anglie if Lita keeps pissing Kane off enough that he wants a divorce. Almost a role reversal. Her stalking him. Kind of?
4) Edge and Christian reuniting any time soon? After RAW when Christian attacked Jericho Edge looked suprised. I bet they will be back together soon in one capacity or another and personally I think it would be pretty sweet.
5) Ric Flair and Batista vs. Benoit and Regal? Don't give two craps about this match. I think it's stupid. Would rather see Benoit vs Batista. But that's just me.
6) Trish Stratus vs Victoria, I'm not sure if this match is on the ppv but once again a match I don't care about.
That's my take on it. Love it or leave it!
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HardKore06
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Post by HardKore06 on Aug 31, 2004 20:00:28 GMT 1
You know, i have not liked WWE for a long time and this just adds to my hatred for the WWE CC Team. Randy Orton, I must admit, is one of the most deserving champions since Eddie Guerrerro.
I am not fan of benoit, I say that openly, he is boring to me. Like The Rock his moveset is limited and I can basically predict a whole Benoit match. Although I do respect him for what he has done in the industry.
HHH is a great athlete and I hate the fact that everyone puts him on as someone who used his wife to get where he is today. That is total crap. Who would you rather see with the title? How many main eventers are actually on RAW? 2...now 3 thanks to Orton. HHH is the only true main event heel on RAW until they let Kane get to the main event.
Speaking of Kane...He used to be one of my fave wrestlers but why is he constantly buried with crappy storylines? What is the damn reason for this stupid Lita angle? It makes no sence. I say kill it before it ruins all 3 of there carrers.
Now onto my predictions on the matches thus far.
1) Orton vs HHH. This should not be hapening. Orton should be facing someone like Y2J or something. They should have saved this for Mania.
2) I hope that Rhyno and Taijiri dont win the tag titles. Personally I think that La Resistance are a great tag team!
3) HBK vs Kane. HBK will win because of all his hype. Matt will not interfiere because he is out for about 8 months with a torn muscle.
4) Edge and Christian reuniting any time soon? A true dream come true if it does happen. I loved this team and Christian is one of my fave heels of all time!
5) Ric Flair and Batista vs. Benoit and Regal? Is this match actually happening? Come one. I cannot stand Benoit! Why put him in this match? Make him wrestle in a 1 contenders match with like Y2J...That I would love to see.
6) Trish Stratus vs Victoria-Hate to say it but the Womens division is ruthlessly boring! I cannot believe that they still have it around. They have nothing to bring to the table right now.
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Post by soulreaper on Aug 31, 2004 20:34:22 GMT 1
I must dissagree with you on a couple of things here.
First Triple WAS a good athlete. He is currently a shadow of what he used to be. Now I will say that I agree with about the whole wife thing.
I say this because Triple H goes right to the source. Lips on Vinnie Macs Ass. One of the reasons he's still on top of the game (no pun intended)
Lastly, the reason there are no main eventers on Raw is because they've all been buried, one way or another by Triple H. Some just sucked and didn't deserve it (Steiner/Nash). Others got fucked (RVD, Booker T, Kane).
Now as for Unforgiven, I will watch it like I always watch these things. "Oh wow, that was kinda cool. meh that was crappy, crappy, crappy, crappy... Blah turn it off, read spoilers." Thats how it goes. They have yet to hold my interest the whole way through a PPV this year, not even WrestleMania. There was a lot of channel surfing going on.
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Post by LK on Aug 31, 2004 23:01:05 GMT 1
These will be the matches and how they go...
Triple H vs. Randy Orton World Heavyweight Title- Orton will win to show HHH that he can do things without evolution.
Kane vs. Shawn Michaels- HBK will win this match because it's HBK, and Kane lost to Matt Hardy for god sakes.
La Resistance vs. Rhyno & Tajiri World Tag Titles- First I thought La Resistance was gonna win but then I thought to myself that Rhyno and Tajiri can't really win any other title. So I think Rhyno & Tajiri will win.
Chris Benoit & William Regal vs. Evoutions Ric Flair & Batista- What the hell? Benoit main events Summerslam, now he's in a non-important, no body wants to see tag match with William Regal versus Evolution? This is a stupid match, and I don't care who wins, but I'm gonna say Benoit and Regal.
Trish Stratus vs. Victoria Womens title- The match will be a draw, then that mysterious woman will come out again to save Victoria, then Victoria get the widows peak on Trish for the victory. Then Victoria finally finds out who the woman is.
MABYE Edge vs. Chris Jericho vs. Christian I.C title- At the end Christian and Edge will team up on Jericho and form a new faction with Christian, Edge, Trish, and Tyson Tomco. Edge retains. MABYE
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Post by Stare on Aug 31, 2004 23:10:37 GMT 1
Here are the things that everyone will be saying about this ppv after it is done:
--- Yeah, so Randy Orton stole the show again --- I can't believe they've buried Benoit this quick --- Kane really does suck, HBK can't even carry him --- Why did Rhyno and Tajiri get built up only to be shot down? --- Jericho and Christian was great, again. But, Edge going heel was predictable. --- With the exception of Orton/HHH and Jericho/Christian, the event was a waste
Yeah, maybe one will be wrong, but you can bet that these will be what people say
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Post by soulreaper on Sept 12, 2004 10:33:52 GMT 1
You mean Edge isn't already a heel... I could've sworn the massive boos gave it away.
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Post by Reaper on Sept 12, 2004 13:43:42 GMT 1
I just don't know what they are going to do with him. It will be interesting to see if he can actually get over as a heel, or just get boos because no one wants him around.
Either way, the match of the night will definately be Christian vs. Jericho. And if we see a reformation of a heel Edge and Christian, I'm all for it.
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Post by eCo on Sept 13, 2004 0:31:47 GMT 1
Here are the things that everyone will be saying about this ppv after it is done: --- Yeah, so Randy Orton stole the show again --- I can't believe they've buried Benoit this quick --- Kane really does suck, HBK can't even carry him --- Why did Rhyno and Tajiri get built up only to be shot down? --- Jericho and Christian was great, again. But, Edge going heel was predictable. --- With the exception of Orton/HHH and Jericho/Christian, the event was a waste Yeah, maybe one will be wrong, but you can bet that these will be what people say some things I dissagree with, here are some things that need to be considered - Randy Orton is suspose to be the new deal for the WWE, it seems to be going well and even though I smell Brock Lesnar 2 in this I have confidence in the WWE. - Don't be so quick to believe that the WWE is ditching Beniot this quick, he is still hot on the crowd so Vince will not likely let Beniot down like that. - Kane is looked as a asset of the entertainment part not the sports part. This is what put him in the picture. - Most of what you said however made total sense, Orton v/s HHH and Christain v/s Jericho will be a sucess.
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Post by shinnstheory on Sept 13, 2004 6:03:36 GMT 1
All I have to say is................... HHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Stare on Sept 13, 2004 6:09:29 GMT 1
All I have to say is . . . NOT FOR LONG!!!!!!!!!
And that was utter bullshit, as discussed with Reaper. I can see benefits coming from it for Orton, as far as a popularity rise is concerned, but I don't think they should've stripped him of the belt this soon. Had it been Survivoe Series, I woudl understand, but still don't think that HHH shoudl be the one to take the belt form him.
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Post by eCo on Sept 13, 2004 21:43:07 GMT 1
I think it's a very good thing that HHH won the match. Because of that Orton is the guy who deserves to be champion and not the guy who has to defend it, why is it a good thing? because it is too early in Orton's career to have a major face title run. Hopefully they will save it for several months or later. If they rush it too fast then it will spell Brock Lesnar all over again.
If it was up to me, Randy Orton would be in the main event picture for over serveral months but still not have the title until having a major match against HHH for it. So Orton will have his revenge and before that he will be the "guy who totally deserves it" thus giving him a true face brand on him. Since Orton is becoming this huge name they could make it so that Orton turns out to be the guy that HHH actually fears because he was with him for so long.
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Post by Reaper on Sept 14, 2004 4:08:10 GMT 1
The only thing about that statement is, Brock Lesnar did deserve his run as champ. He was one of the best wrestlers in the company. Not that Orton doesn't deserve it. He has been a shining light for the WWE in the last few months.
I honestky think Orton will win the belt back even sooner than he lost it.
The bad thing is, we all complain when the WWE is too predictable. Very few people predicted that HHH would win at Unforgiven, but yet, we still complain about that because it's not what we wanted. We wanted Orton to have a decent run with the company. We all predicted that....
Correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by soulreaper on Sept 14, 2004 4:23:13 GMT 1
I have to disagree. I don't so much mind the fact that he lost, but I feel that Triple H wasn't the right choice. Hell I would have preferred Flair over that. Whenever Trips wins gold, the whole show slows down.
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Post by Reaper on Sept 14, 2004 4:44:55 GMT 1
Fair enough, but you didn't think it would happen, did you? That's what I mean. You didn't predict it and you didn't want it. Regardless of who won, you didn't think Orton would lose, but you still complain that he did, even though you want un-predictability.
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Post by McKenna on Sept 14, 2004 8:04:30 GMT 1
I really thought Orton would retain the title
The question running through my mind is how much of this was stroyline, and how much political work backstage?
In all honesty, why didnt HHH cut Benoit's reign short??
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Post by Gormy on Sept 14, 2004 9:46:42 GMT 1
All I can say is that it was a million times better than that last poop that they had the gall to call a PPV
I enjoyed it thoroughly...I am enjoying Raw as a whole a lot more anyway because Lita isnt wrestling
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Post by stocko on Sept 14, 2004 10:51:38 GMT 1
the ppv was enjoyable, much better than summerslam
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pBoy666
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Post by pBoy666 on Sept 17, 2004 14:18:04 GMT 1
i thought it was one of the best ppv for a while. The ladder match was great, was pleased to see Jericho with some gold again
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Post by McKenna on Sept 19, 2004 11:20:48 GMT 1
Well, This can be locked and we can move on to the No Mercy and Taboo Tuesday threads
LOCKED!!!!!!!!!!
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