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Post by Stare on Oct 11, 2005 16:26:50 GMT 1
Addryd has stated that he's taking a break . . . who knows how long that could be? It could very well be permanent, though I hope not.
if Cole isnt going to count, it makes no sense why Funamie should. Cole has been just as active as Funamie in the past month or so. He's promo'ed once, he gave his opinion in the other thread, and he ALSO was involved in Fever.
Either Wolverine, Funamie, Cole, Ecos, SoL, Firefly, & SteveTKO shoudl count or they shouldnt. All these people are either active or have stated they will be.
As for SoL's return being spoiled, I'm not going to let his vote not count due to a storyline that the rest of the roster doestn know about. SoL took the time to give his opinion, vote in the poll, and promo for his match at Fever. He stated he's coming back. He's done the exact same amount of work as Funamie & Cole (actually more if you count his past), and the only reason his name isnt on that roster is because we were bringing him back in a show at a later date, and figured adding his name to the roster would spoil that.
You want to say he doesnt count and Funamie and Cole do? I think that's wrong
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Post by Cactus on Oct 11, 2005 16:36:51 GMT 1
IMO if SoL is coming back then his vote should count same as amie and cole, as far as I know SteveTKO signed back up and is registered in the roster list and as he has missed 1 match not 2 his vote ( if he does ) should count same as Ecos.
As far as I know FF is not coming back so if he votes discount it, Warlock voted but is not, or ever has been part of the e-fed so whilst his opinion is valued, unfortunatly his vote ( if he did ) should not.
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Post by shinnstheory on Oct 11, 2005 16:38:24 GMT 1
I agreed about Cole. He did promo, but that was eons ago. He is not active again, but not enough to be counted.
Funamie promoed for her last match and has been active ever since.
As for SoL & Firefly, they are not even on the roster. And, SteveTKO said he would be back, but backed out of that.
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Post by Stare on Oct 11, 2005 16:48:47 GMT 1
I belive SoL has done both of these, so I'll add him to the roster since the only reason he wasnt on there is because we were going to write him back in as a storyline somehow.
His vote should count, Shinns. He's worked with us on his most recent storyline, promo'ed, said he's coming back, and gave his opinion on this whole matter. I think the guy has proven that he is a dedicated part of the roster for the time being. If you dont view it as that, then he is at least proven that he's just as active as Funamie, Cole, etc.
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Post by shinnstheory on Oct 11, 2005 16:56:56 GMT 1
SoL isn't even sure WHEN he's coming back. You keep saying the same thing over and over.
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Post by Stare on Oct 11, 2005 17:05:40 GMT 1
Ok, fair enough.
Back to voting
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Post by shinnstheory on Oct 11, 2005 17:18:09 GMT 1
We'll both take a Valium when this thread is closed and decide who should count and who shouldn't.
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Post by Simz on Oct 11, 2005 20:01:56 GMT 1
So, after all this. Isn't Pro-draft winning. I can count at least two people's vote that are not going to count. And they were for Anti-draft.
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Post by lhw on Oct 11, 2005 20:14:34 GMT 1
Ya know, given how this is pretty much evenly split, you guys should probably be ready to create some alternative storylines...just in case there IS a draft, and some of the anti-drafters decide to quit because of it.
Not sayin' it's gonna happen, but I've seen it before...it never hurts to be prepared for the worst.
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Post by Stare on Oct 11, 2005 20:15:06 GMT 1
it's actually dead-even right now.
We'll see what else develops today.
The only person who is pro that hasnt voted is Stevo316, and eventhough we know his opinion, I dont know if it counts if he doesnt make it to the poll. I think it should still count, but that's just my opinion.
Cole Slocum hasn't voted and he's stated he's anti-draft.
I still think SoL should count, Shinns thinks funamie should count. And we both disagree with eachother on those standpoints.
Basically, as you can see, even if we agreed with eachother, it'd still be tied, I believe
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Post by shinnstheory on Oct 11, 2005 20:18:59 GMT 1
Ok. So, since SoL and Funamie are on opposite sides, we'll just count them, even though it really doesn't matter. So, we both win. That's an easy out to discussing those two any further. Cool with you, or not? Shout at me.
EDIT: Perfect Dark ending credits take a zillion years to finish.
EDIT: Another person I am "iffy" about voting is Wolverine. He came right out and said if the draft occurs he'll stay. If not, he won't. It could be either way. If he was anti-draft, I still would doubt his vote. He did miss Fever, and is always off and on.
Give me your thoughts on that Stare.
Actually, anyone can give us their thoughts on the topic of who should be allowed to vote, and who shouldn't.
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Post by _the j-man on Oct 11, 2005 20:20:55 GMT 1
I hope some people still have to vote. I'm sweating bullets looking at the poll results.
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Post by Stare on Oct 11, 2005 20:24:58 GMT 1
there are still some people. But, if nobody has voted by the end of the day, this locks as a tie, I suppose.
If that happens, I would assume me and Shinns will work out a compromise somehow. I'll talk to him about that right now, and we'll figure out some things. We'll address it if things dont go one way or another, I would think.
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Post by Stare on Oct 11, 2005 20:26:24 GMT 1
Double post.
Shinns, no offense to any of these people . . .and it's 2 from each side.
SoL, Wolverine, Funamie, Cole Slocum are the people I think should go hand in hand. Count em all, or count none of them. It doesnt matter, might as well say count em in my view.
EDIT: Though, I still think SoL is the ONLY one that should count, I'm just trying to work with you here.
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Post by Simz on Oct 11, 2005 20:45:28 GMT 1
^ If SoL is here and going to return then I think he should be able to vote. Wolverine, he said that he is coming back. So his vote should count. Yes he says he will quit if there isn't a draft but i'm sure it is only a threat. And there are probably other people who are thinking of doing the same if they don't get their own way. You can't please everybody. Funamie, I don't really see her as a part of the e-fed. It would be the same thing if wench was still here. Funamie I think is more of a manager. Sole, I think his vote should count. He was away for a while, so what he is back, and I don't see him leaving. IMO
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Post by Stare on Oct 11, 2005 20:52:47 GMT 1
Well, that's 3 people besides me that think SoL should be counted.
SoL --- should count Funamie --- undecided. I'm moreso leaning towards yes, cause she has been around and showed for Fever. Cole --- undecided. More on no with this one, just cause he really hasnt done anything besides that 1 promo. Wolverine --- shouldn't count. If it is a threat, Simz, that really says a lot on him negatively
That's my final opinion, Shinns.
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Post by shinnstheory on Oct 11, 2005 21:07:24 GMT 1
Ok. Opinion taken.
Let me just take a minute to tell everyone about each person.
SoL - He left e-Fed. We all know that. He was running another e-Fed. That's cool. Stare and I thought it would be cool if we brought back a few legends for the show. SoL was one of them. This was suppose to be a 1 time thing. However, after Fever, he said he would later make a return. He didn't specify when he'd return. Therefore, at this moment, SoL is not even a part of this e-Fed. However, he WILL be, and I am very excited that he WILL be.
Funamie - She promoed for her last match and took part in Fever shortly after. She is part of the roster.
Cole - Cole promoed a while ago, for Sole Survivor. The, he had to leave for military training. He wasn't able to promo for WrestleFever. In fact, he missed it by a few days. He now wants to be back full time. This is border line.
Wolverine - Hasn't really participated recently. He actually was thinking of leaving all together. Then, the draft idea arose and he came flat out and said "I'll only stay if we have a draft.
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So, in my humble opinion:
SoL - Shouldn't count. He's not in this e-Fed right now.
Funamie - Should count due to recent activity.
Cole - Shouldn't count do to the space involved between his departure and return.
Wolverine - Shouldn't count do to him saying he was leaving until the draft thread was opened.
And that is my final opinion, Stare.
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Post by _the j-man on Oct 11, 2005 21:15:08 GMT 1
I think all of them should count. Why not? Just because they're inactive, they're still apart of this fed and obvisiously this topic has peaked their interest again. What will make them want to still be with the fed if you won't even count their opinion. I certainly wouldn't want to be apart of an e-fed that didn't want to hear me out whether i posted every show or every other show or rarely at all. I don't think that's fair.
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Post by shinnstheory on Oct 11, 2005 21:17:32 GMT 1
But what some of you fail to realize is that SoL isn't a part of the e-Fed yet. He gave us a "I'll be back soon" thing.
Firefly said the same thing to me....Just ask Cactus. If Firefly were to vote, should he count as well? He is in the same boat as SoL (hopefully not literally since both dislike one another).
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Post by Stare on Oct 11, 2005 21:18:03 GMT 1
I still don't agree with SoL, this WILL affect him, and he does know how this fed works and spent time in it. He knows how it works, he's returning to it, he will be participating, so he should have a say since he was a part of the fed for a while and knows how it works, helping him get a better idea of what he thinks is best.
I also think Stevo316 should count since we know where he stands on this, as he stated in the discussion thread he was pro-draft. He might make it in time for this one, he might not, but that doesnt defeat the fact that he has shared his opinion, the whole board knows his opinion, and since he took the time to give it, there is no reason he shoudl eb excluded because he doesnt show up to the board every 3 days.
Just reply to Stevo being counted or not and let me know why or why not. I'm letting it go after this, and I'm hoping this will be resolved one way or another by the time this locks, cause it's really hurting the P2PW.
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Post by Cactus on Oct 11, 2005 21:18:10 GMT 1
Sol, should as he done his last match and will be returning, no reason to doubt him so if he returns to the p2pw surely he opinion counts.
Funamie, same as above, she played her part when she had a match and is active when needed.
Cole, IMO should get the benifit of the doubt, yes he missed fever but with good reason so I say count it, if he no-shows at least we gaev him the cance.
Wolverine, No, not if je wants to make threats so he gets his own way, we all have work, reallife issues etc but we make it on to promo etc so if he cant then IMO he is the execption, not the rule.
For those waiting for a show to be up hopefully SS will be up by the weekend so that will tide you over.
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Post by Cactus on Oct 11, 2005 21:20:40 GMT 1
sorry for the double but firefly is like SoL IMO if he is returning then he should get a say on the fed
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Post by shinnstheory on Oct 11, 2005 21:21:18 GMT 1
Ok, think of it this way. SoL is writing for his own fed. What if, by some chance, he decides not to come back. BUT, we counted his vote and his vote is the one to cause the draft. Then what? We take the draft back?
I'm not saying that he won't come back. I really hope he does. But, he is not back right now. He is, literally, not part of the P2PW.
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Post by Stare on Oct 11, 2005 21:26:31 GMT 1
and Stevo?
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Post by shinnstheory on Oct 11, 2005 21:28:37 GMT 1
and SteveTKO?
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