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Post by brockandsable on Sept 21, 2006 20:31:19 GMT 1
WWE's desperate state is obvious to every wrestling fan. From the desperate attmpt to revive Saturday Night's Main Event to the reintroduction of Degeneration X, it is no secret that the WWE is hurting for a new leader; a new idea that will carry the company out of the pit. Like Steve Austin and The Rock did several years ago.
Now I think Mr. Kennedy has the potential to be a breakout star, but he still needs some time to develop. I could see him as another version of The Rock, in an entertainning sense. Who the other will be, I don't know, but there are usually two. Rock/Austin; Hulk Warrior/Macho Man; Hulk Hogan/Piper, etc., etc., etc.
It's time for WWE to pull some money matches, even if it's a short term fix. Similar to 2002, the WWE was in a bad state and used the return of Hulk Hogan and the debut of Brock Lesnar to cause a temporary spike in rating. Here are some key feuds that I think could accomplish the same feet four and a half years later:Undertaker v. Edge This is one that would be best saved for Wrestlemania 23 as both athletes have winning streaks and it would be interesting to see who comes out on top. I don't think there is much suspense when Taker fights a total shit at the Big One. Taker/Henry, Taker/A-Train & Big Show, Taker/Giant Gonzales - these are too easy. But when Taker was pit against Orton last year, you've got to confess that there was that element of suspense for some moments. There was that feeling that Taker just might lose. Edge/Undertaker would generate that same feeling and then some. Batista v. John Cena I really wish Cena had lost the TLC match and ended up on Friday Night Smackdown!. Cena/Batista would help Batista out of his current slump. Face it, Cena generates heel heat than anyone on either brand. Batista's momentum and seems to have dwindled along with the size of his biceps. What better way to raise Dave's stock than to pit him against the man the IWC hates? They wouldn't even need a title involved here. It would be the battle of the two former World Champs. HBK v. Christian CageI know, I know, I'm dreaming. But really think about this and then picture it at Wrestlemania 23. The Rock v. John Cena Now I am probably one of the very few who has accepted that we will never again see Dwayne Johnson compete in the squared circle again, but this has money written all over it. Take two "babyfaces" who are all too familiar with the crowd turning on them and let all hell break loose. Talk to me, peeps.....
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Post by Mrs Fizz Allmendinger on Sept 21, 2006 21:02:41 GMT 1
I heard rumors recently that The Rock will come back to wrestle but don't know when. I would love to see Batista against John Cena as not only they were both former champions athough John Cena is the champion right now but they both won the WWE/Heavyweight title at Wrestlemania 21 and I wouldn't mind seeing The Rock face against John Cena. It would be a trash talking competition because them two are so good on trash talking.
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Post by Aladdin on Sept 21, 2006 22:07:51 GMT 1
Ummm.....yeah. The Rock has stated many times that he is DONE with wrestling.
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Post by Stare on Sept 21, 2006 22:22:05 GMT 1
i think if the WWE had kept Christian around, it would help a lot.
I think Johnny Nitro is the future. I look at him as the next Shawn Michaels. You got a guy who was in a tag team, was the more presentable star so he goes places while the other doesnt, has a female manager who's crazy for him.
If Nitro develops a growl in his voice to hide the boy'ish vocals, it would help a lot, and if he is put in some worthwhile feuds. But, he is being used well, and being built slowly.
Carlito could be a star similar to The Rock if the WWE would put some stock into him. The guy makes all of his matches entertaining, and is easily the most improved superstar this year. If given more of an entertainment role like The Rock, he could go places quickly. Bring back the Cabana, or let the guy win a BIG match.
Randy Orton is a future star. I think the guy understand the ring psychology side of it very much so, and his smug appearance makes it easy to hate him. He still has some work to do on the mic, but imagine him a year ago, and you'll realize how far he has come. I think if he hadn't been tainted with the shit title run, he'd be three times as big of a star right now. Hopefully, a feud with HHH centered around that could rectify it.
Ken Kennedy is another The Rock, just as E2 said. Kennedy is excellent in the ring, and the way he was re-introduced ruined him very much so.
Basically, most of the potential future guys have been ruined because the WWE writers are fucking retarded, and Vince is too busy jacking off over John Cena. They put so much focus on Cena and DX, and they're not establishing anyone else.
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Post by KillerSundin (Formerly HBK) on Sept 21, 2006 22:27:42 GMT 1
I agree with Stare 100%. But to tell you the truth, I have been losing my interest in wrestling pretty rapidly.
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Post by Aladdin on Sept 22, 2006 0:07:32 GMT 1
I agree with Stare. He said it well.
Christian would be a huge help to SD! right now. I remember about 6 months ago that if Christian hadn't left then he would probably be in the main event right now, and i still believe this is true. Plus, I honestly think him winning the NWA Title was some what anti-climatic because it isn't recognized as THE title in wrestling. Him winning the WWE Title would have been the real culmination of all his years of wrestling.
I do think WWE has a lot of potential superstars who'll serve them well in years to come, but at the moment they're either too green or aren't getting their opportunities because of bad booking, bad writing, bad owners and bad champions.
Carlito - I think this guy is amazing. He's really stepped up his game in the last year and he's getting over because of it. I remember reading one of his interviews about a year ago where he said that he was slowly showing the world what he can do and that there's a lot more things that the world didn't know he could do. If this is true I reckon Carltio could be one of the best stars WWE has produced this decade. He's excellent on the mic, he's over with the crowd (sometimes gets the biggest pops of the night), he's got a great look, a good gimick and he can wrestle. He's the real deal. He's got everything.
Jeff Hardy - I think he's been great since returning. He seems motivated and has only fucked up a couple times in all of his matches so far (both on Raw at MSG). This guy is over as hell, and can put on memorable matches, so I'm sure he'll be a great star in the future.
Johnny Jeter - Johnny, of the Spirit Squad, is by far my favourite member. Of what little i've seen of him in the ring (in WWE and OVW) he's the best of his faction, or at least most entertaining. I personally think he's better than Kenny, and he seems to have something extra that separates him from the pack. While Kenny is great in the ring, he also seems to be quite generic. Johnny on the other hand has something that I can't quite put my finger on, but it makes him stand out.
Johnny Nitro - Just like Stare, i think this guy is an amazing talent. He's like a mixture of HBK and Edge with more high flying added in. His gimick is excellent and Melina just adds so much to his character. WWE are starting to give him more time to speak and be in the spotlight so they must see something in him. I for one enjoyed his press conference from a few weeks ago and i love the guys fashion sense ;D. His match with Hardy at Unforgiven really showed me that he does know what he's doing in the ring. He could be and should be huge.
Nick Nemeth & Ken Doane (Spirit Squad) - I like these guys but i don't think they'll be as good as Johnny. Still, i reckon WWE may decide to replace Orton with Kenny, if Randy continues to fuck up.
Shelton Benjamin - Yeah, this guy is amazing. He just isn't ever given a real chance. Face Shelton > Heel Shelton.
Ken Kennedy - .....Kennedy! He owns. He needs to lose the excess flab though. Get him in a real feud. Since winning the US Title i think he's been back to the form he was in before he got injured. Bring back the Steam Roller as his finisher is a vital part of his repetoire IMO.
Lashley - He could be everything that Brock Lesnar wasn't and more, and that's dedicated. This guys is so good and so impressive. He's improving every week and he has a great attitude. Definitely someone you can build your company around.
Matt Hardy - He's so over with the crowd and for no apparent reason apart from his great ring ability.
Elijah Burke - He's what Orlando Jordan wishes he could be. Screw Sylverster Terkay, the guy is fucking shit. Burke seems to be comfortable on the mic and capable in the ring.
Paul London - If the guy bulks up, he could be the next Mysterio.
If you notice, i didn't put Orton in it because i can't stand the guy anymore. He's given chance after chance after chance and he just keeps fucking up and doesn't seem to care. So, i saw he can fuck off. Why risk the company on a retard like him. I was pissed when he beat Carlito because he doesn't deserve it in the slightest.
WWE's bigget problem is that they don't know when to step. They'll squeeze every last drop out of every feud, causing it to go stale. They have people who can change the company around but they don't realize it because they like to stick to a proven formula which is failing right now.
WWE are trying their best to find the new Rock, Austin, HBK or Hogan, when what they should really be doing is looking for the next big breakout star. Someone different from everyone else. That's why Cena failed because you can't be a better Rock than The Rock. Cena needs to be himself not someone else, but WWE don't realize that. That's their main problem.
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Post by Mrs Fizz Allmendinger on Sept 22, 2006 20:11:19 GMT 1
What Randy Orton is doing is getting himself fired after I heard what he is doing to himself. I heard from one of the forums that he smokes weed and he was the first wrestler on WWE to fail a drugs test.
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Post by Your Morality Enforcer on Sept 22, 2006 21:25:27 GMT 1
Why fire Orton right now, when you can slowly job him out, then release him? They've spent this time creating him, why give TNA a gift like that?
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Post by brockandsable on Sept 22, 2006 21:31:18 GMT 1
It's Orton's recent "OOC" behavior that are shedding light as to why the Undertaker didn't put him over in the HIAC to win the war. Maybe he remembered this newbie's past mistakes and feared he would get in more trouble, so he didn't bother. If that's the case, it may prove the opposite effect as holding one's past against him may retard any future progress.
Much like Stare has no faith in the E2 character because of past "OOC" mistakes.
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Post by Faster Pussycat! on Sept 22, 2006 22:29:55 GMT 1
Orton is the spoiled rich kid stereotype come horribly to life. If there was any justice in the world he would have been flogged and shot out of a canon years ago.
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Post by Aladdin on Sept 22, 2006 22:41:06 GMT 1
NIN, what do you think of Carlito?
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Post by Faster Pussycat! on Sept 23, 2006 4:08:56 GMT 1
Meh.
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Post by bo on Sept 23, 2006 12:17:28 GMT 1
Carlito's father the legendary Carlos Colon is pushing the WWE to sign Carlito's brother, Eddie Colon. I think Eddie is a better wrestler than Carlito. I think they could make a very serious tag team and bring back the tag team division. Fueding with teams like Cade and Murdoch, who should be used more often.
Randy Orton is a great wrestler in the ring but needs to straighten himself outside the ring. I personally have no problem with John Cena but the WWE have turned so many people away from the WWE and turned so many people off of Cena. Lots of people still like him and a shit load of people don't. So, I really can't say anything about Cena. Shelton Benjamin. Shelton is a very gifted wrestler and can just about do anything in the ring. But, people say he lacks charisma. Charisma is what draws people to you, incase you didn't know. So, the WWE give him a pair of sunglasses and a fancy shirt. Sure, that's cool but they're not pushing it. And, now they're starting this 'It's 'cause I'm black..'.. Maybe that's funny to some but to others, they're going to take offence and to others.. Well, they're going to find Shelton Benjamin even more boring. If they wanted to make Shelton the cool guy, they should make him the cool guy. Carlito's a cool guy, right? Have them fight over who is cool.. Shelton is I-C champ. Have them fight over who was the cooler I-C champ. Have Piper come in and say he was the coolest I-C champ. So, okay. We have Eddie Colon in the WWE. Carlito can go tag with Eddie and we're left with Shelton and Piper. Think how much Piper could help Shelton. So, they have a big battle, Shelton wins and Shelton gets over. Johnny Nitro. I personally really liked MNM and thought they were a great team. Both very good wrestlers and I thought Joey was the better of the two. Just being more expereinced. But, Joey is a great wrestler despite the difference in experience. But, I am talking about Johnny and not Joey. I think Johnny has enormous potential and can really go far. He has some unique moves that you don't really see anywhere else. Making him unique. WWE can do what they want with him. He can go right to the top. Charlie Haas. Excellant wrestler. Again with Charlie people say he lacks charisma. But who needs charisma when you wrestle aswell as Charlie. But, think again Beau, this is the WWE and charisma is what gets you places. But, Benoit doesn't exactly have a big dose of charisma and he is seen as one of WWE's big stars, so why can't Charlie be seen the same way? People know that Charlie is a great wrestler but the WWE don't use him as the great wrestler he is. They tag him with Big Viscera. There is nothing wrong with that either. But the problem WWE has is sticking with things. When I say that, I mean good things. They sure as hell stick with this Mcmahon, DX thing and the same with Eddie's passing and Rey Mysterio on Smackdown which gives me the absolute shits.. Yeah, they need to push the tag division. Most people love a good tag team match. They just put no emphasis into it. It really is very sad. Look at the 80's and all the great tag teams they had. British Bulldogs, Hart Foundation, Killer Bees, Demolition, Strike Force, Sheik & Volkoff, Brain Busters. Yes, they're legendary tag teams. You know why? Because the WWE made them legendary. Ofcoarse there was the NWA etc. with a couple of them but the tag division was so huge back then. It's not because of talent. WWE have talent. Is it because they had competition back then and now they belive they dont have it and that they can just fuck around? Like Ric Flair always said in just about every promo he ever did. To be the best, you have to work hard every day. Ric Flair always worked his ass off and that's why he is and always will be the man in American Pro Wrestling. WWE is the top promotion in the World of Pro wrestling. But, why do they have to be so lazy. So many people have turned away from the WWE and stopped watching the WWE from all their bullshit in the last few years... They want ratings? Do stuff to get ratings. Talking about cocks doesn't get you ratings. Good, exciting wrestling gets you ratings. If people want to hear stupid jokes they can watch the comedy channel. But, I don't dislike humour. Some promos, gimmicks etc. are so, so funny.. Cocks arn't funny... Damn, shit.. LOL. I could go on all night.
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Post by Scream on Sept 23, 2006 23:13:27 GMT 1
Did I hear that right? Carlito's last name is Colon? They should have his brother debut as Colon Oscopy.
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Post by bo on Sept 23, 2006 23:32:38 GMT 1
LOLOLOL, They could do that if they wanted to. But, I have a feeling that they wouldn't.
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Post by Cactus on Sept 25, 2006 18:05:03 GMT 1
your talkin out of your ass, see what i did there
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Post by brockandsable on Sept 25, 2006 18:11:57 GMT 1
.....you made a funny.
*crickets*
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Post by Faster Pussycat! on Sept 25, 2006 19:51:09 GMT 1
More guns equal less crime.
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