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Post by brockandsable on Sept 6, 2006 17:35:46 GMT 1
The 5 Biggest WWE Flops (So Far) in 2006 I vaguely recall that awful period in WWE wrestling sometime between 1995 and 1997 when the average wrestling fan regarded the E as a “disaster in progress”. I remember a couple of awful title reigns by Sid Justice. Through a haze of drunkenness I call recall an ex football star/cokehead headling the biggest wrestling show of the year. And I also remember a failed experiment named Dean Douglass. Damn, I must be getting old. But never the less, those were grand ideas compared to some of the shit I’ve seen WWE puke out at us this year. Briefly, very briefly, will run down what I recognize as the top ten. Then I welcome you to chime in with your peanut opinion and agree or disagree. The reason this does not fall under “column” because I believe columns are one way and that is that. But this is like interaction. Kind of like Stephanie McMahon and “Macho Man” Randy Savage interacting while she was a wee little girl. Kind of like Vince McMahon’s unusually large asshole interacting with Shawn Michaels’ face. You get the point now. 5. Bringing Dave Batista back on Saturday Night’s Main Event instead of at The Great Anmerican Bash – Only because SNME has been seen as a joke now and I think the exclamation point they were looking for could have been made if he made his in-ring return at the PPV. They had been hyping the return in the prior weeks and made it seem larger than life. Unfortunately, wrestling on Saturday nights these days isn’t.4. Actually believing that Mark Henry could go for the long haul without getting injured. - They actually planned storylines around this guy, completely ignoring his health history. We all know the result. I understand WWE was trying to create a dominant heel on their Friday night product, and that’s where I think Umaga would have fit in well. It seems as if Daivari is a curse. Muhammad Hassan, The Great Khali and Mark Henry are not working right now.3. The Great Khali - I'm sure we'd all like to forget this.2. The Rey Mysterio World Title run. - Many in the IWC believe it was due him to have a run because of his dedication to and love of the game. But there are somethings that just won’t happen. A Pakastani street thug will never have sex with Mariah Carey. A Republican will never be tolerant of minorities. And the Crocodile Hunter will never come back. Rey Mysterio is just not World Title material. WWE could have paid tribute to Rey with a solid, and believable US Titlle run and put the World Belt on someone else.1. No WWE Draft This Year – I know the whole ECW thing got in the way, but I think there is more than enough talent to still have done this effectively. There are some wrestlers that are just totally on the wrong show and they are paying for it for lack of push. RAW will always be the McMahon Family Hour, and as a result, Carlito, Kane, Johnny Nitro, and several others are suffering.
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Post by Aladdin on Sept 6, 2006 22:36:37 GMT 1
As much as i hate Mark Henry, I thought he did a decent job because he did everything he was asked to. No-one expected good matches out of him. He got over well as a heel and was credible in beating and injuring a good bunch of superstars. He was decent on the mic and was intimidating in general. I'm still glad he didn't win any titles because he's not that good. And, i knew he would get injured, just didn't expect it so soon. What's funny is that he injured himself straight after signing a brand new contract, for good money. Rey Mysterio sucks and his title run was absolute bullshit. An embarassment. I can honestly say i didn't think he deserved the title so soon. I would have preffered a US Title run first and then a WWE Title run. And i mean WWE Title. Him being the World Heavyweight Champion makes no sense. A move to Raw would have been fresh and just what he needed. Plus i don't think he and Batista could be on the same show. Great Khali sucks. WWE know this. Apparently they're going to bring him back as a face. I would add Mania 22 to the list. With the exception of the Edge/Foley match and the main event (purely for the crowd reacton and the CM Punk moment. The match sucked) The MITB Ladder match was such a let down but understandable due to the involvement of Finlay (as much as i love him, he isn't suited to Ladder Matches) and Lashley, and the lack of Carlito. Angle Vs. Orton Vs. Rey was never given a chance to be the greatness it could have and would have been, because apparently a playboy pillow fight needs more time than a World Title match. Everything else just sucked badly. I think it'll be safe to say that the DX rebirth will be a flop too.
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Post by Stare on Sept 6, 2006 22:46:49 GMT 1
DX wouldn't have been a flop if it wasn't for the sole focus of that group to be going against the McMahons & The spirit Squad (who were thrown by the McMahons). It's made nobody care about them.
The good moments from DX have been ruined by how long they let said segment run.
The Mic Segment where Vince's voice would go high then low was one of the funniest things I had ever seen . . . for the first five minutes. 10 minutes after that, I was just begging for it to end.
The Back Wheels being torn off the limo was pretty entertaining, mostly cause you didnt expect it.
Shawn Michaels and his dedication to his religion has held him back. Triple H has become the "leader" of DX in my eyes simply becasue he can pull off the attitude in full effect.
In my opinion, the DX we saw this week on Raw should've been how it was all along. Two veterans who have grown from their childish ways, and are adrenaline pumped and pissed off coming to the ring with weapons and clearing out anyone in their way.
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Post by brockandsable on Sept 7, 2006 2:45:47 GMT 1
Well leave it to WWE to take it this long to figure it out. The goofy antics were cool the first couple of weeks and then faded to dirt after that. Would have been interesting if the Spirit Squad would have gone over at some point. I mean at two points (more if you count the house shows) DX went over The Spirit Squad (5 members) and that made them look horrible. It would have been more believable if the five went over the two. It would have been even more interesting if the two members of DX could get in the title chase.
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Post by brockandsable on Sept 18, 2006 19:34:07 GMT 1
The good moments from DX have been ruined by how long they let said segment run. Hopefully this is the end.
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Post by Mrs Fizz Allmendinger on Sept 18, 2006 21:18:10 GMT 1
I am getting bored of seeing DX against The McMahons in a wrestling match now and I am also getting bored of seeing Edge and Cena matches too.
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Post by Faster Pussycat! on Sept 18, 2006 23:35:56 GMT 1
Stop watching.
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Post by nycross on Sept 19, 2006 6:07:34 GMT 1
WWE is going down hill. I remeber the days when the Mc Mahon was not so arrogant about the organization when WCW braught compitition and revitialized wrestling. The problem is McMahaon has lost his writing skills. The plots lately have been horrible. I say in the next 3 years TNA will rise and pull a WWE and become the biggest wrestling organization. Due to McMahaons neglence to the sport of profesional wrestling.
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Post by Stare on Sept 19, 2006 15:41:46 GMT 1
TNA will never be bigger than the WWE. Even with Vince's declining creativity, WWE's storylines still walk circles around TNA's.
If TNA had better writers, then yes, they could pose a threat. My problem with TNA is they were on the right track by trying to be different and let that carry them, and now they're trying to imitate WWE a lot of the times with certain storylines. Being different is the ONLY way they'll go somewhere.
Samoa Joe is, IMO, their biggest asset, and they're treating him like garbage. Jarrett vs. Joe has been a desired title match for a while, but they've ruined that with the upcoming "non-title" match. Now, when they do meet for the title, it won't have as much meaning.
Joe should've been built-up, like he has been, and thrown at Jarret at Bound For Glory, not Sting. That's poor booking and they're doing the same thing WWE did, and that's not listening to the fans. Nobody cares about Sting anymore.
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Post by eCo on Sept 19, 2006 18:21:58 GMT 1
I think this thread is too similar to the thread I made, but anyhow.
5. I don't think that was such a big issue. I'm just happy that Batista is back.
4. I agree with that, and I made a statement about this in the real 2006 thread.
3. The Great Khali isn't that bad. He's not bad as Giant Gonzales.
2. I agree to a point about Rey's title run. It was good from the start, and I loved the Randy Orton vs Rey Mysterio feud. But after that they just gutted his title run, and his own character. They still gave him an underdog/child-like image where he still needs the help of someone like Batista to come to the rescue. If they did a few things different like have Rey defeat Khali in that one match and made it seem that he really was a credible champion then it would have worked out.
1. I personally believe that the 2005 draft was the best draft ever, and I was just hoping that it would remain the same. I believe that no draft was nessesary for this summer.
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Post by Aladdin on Sept 19, 2006 18:53:14 GMT 1
Stare - Well said. All the future stars in TNA are suffering due to Sting's presence. Not to mention Jarrett being champ again. Heel Christian Vs. Joe, for the title, at BFG would have been excellent IMO, but only if Christian's feuds were given more time during the course of the year.
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Post by brockandsable on Sept 19, 2006 19:43:40 GMT 1
I don't watch TNA, but I find it difficult to believe that a wrestler as old amd as washed up as Sting is getting props like this. But like Ninny said, "stop watching". I would think the executives at TNA would take notes from WWE's Bill Goldberg experiment that failed woefully in 2003.
I thought there was a glimmer of hope when Christian Cage jumped shipped earlier this year, but to my understanding, from what I am hearing, he's being misused and a lot of that has to do with Jeff Jarrett being gold happy. TNA is shit.
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Post by eCo on Sept 28, 2006 20:38:30 GMT 1
I honestly believe that Sting is a huge asset to TNA, and that is over the fact that he is appealing to all of the neo-WCW fans.
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Post by Stare on Sept 28, 2006 20:57:28 GMT 1
there are no WCW fans anymore. When the WWE started incorporating WCW guys, that is what WWE became, a portal to that. And, do you remember what happened to most of the WCW guys? They became stale and nobody cared about them anymore.
Now, I admit, I was excited to see Sting come back at first, but he can't go in the ring anymore. It's like Hogan coming in to WWE and getting a shot at John Cena for the gold. IT's ridiculous
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