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Post by Aladdin on Dec 11, 2004 14:59:32 GMT 1
cool, thanks Eez. i'll go have a look.
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Post by Darth Peccatus on Dec 11, 2004 15:18:58 GMT 1
If you're going into the SW books, try and stick to the chronological order, i.e. the timeline whjch should be contained within many of the books. Don't do what I first did and jump from The Crystal Star to Vector Prime. It'll make your head hurt.
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Post by Aladdin on Dec 11, 2004 15:56:45 GMT 1
So what's the correct order then?
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Post by Darth Peccatus on Dec 11, 2004 22:11:37 GMT 1
Ack!
Can't say off the top of my head. Mainly because there's so freaking many of 'em. However, I think there's only a scant few that take place before the aforementioned Timothy Zahn 'Thrawn Trilogy'; the only ones I can think of that precede those are The Courtship Of Princess Leia and The Truce At Bakura.
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Post by Aladdin on Dec 11, 2004 23:28:58 GMT 1
do the books tell us about when darth vader was first made/came/ appeared? Do the books have the same plot as the films?
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Post by brockandsable on Dec 11, 2004 23:38:05 GMT 1
According to Star Wars.com Hyperspace, the Expanded Universe books are not George Lucas' true vision of the Star Wars saga so therefor hold no water. The novels are merely a dipiction of the movies. The only way to find out the way Vader truly came about is to go the movies in May.
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Post by Aladdin on Dec 12, 2004 0:04:05 GMT 1
i've already read a a spoiler, but now i realise that was a stupid thing to do.
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Post by Darth Peccatus on Dec 12, 2004 0:12:58 GMT 1
According to Star Wars.com Hyperspace, the Expanded Universe books are not George Lucas' true vision of the Star Wars saga so therefor hold no water. I disagree with this utterly. Most of the books take place after the films, and since they don't contradict the films (except on a few occasions where the book was written before the prequels, and due to crap about clone troopers or goodness knows what else, it doesn't quite add up), then they should be taken as absolute truth, and are taken so by most SW fans I know. So, in answer to Aladdin: Unless you read a novelisation of one of the films, then no, the books will not have the same plot. Technically. Because they go beyond the films, and often surpass them.
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Post by Aladdin on Dec 12, 2004 0:16:32 GMT 1
cool thanks for the info guys. i will be sure to go and get them. once i read them i'll tell you what i think.
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Post by Austin Tacious on Dec 12, 2004 15:03:47 GMT 1
yeah, some of the books are actually recognised as official storylines... the trilogy of books i recommended to you are the third trilogy of the starwars saga.... and will be until Lucas films them, which will likely be never, so they will always be the third trilogy.
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Post by Aladdin on Dec 12, 2004 16:19:58 GMT 1
do you mean episodes7 -9? if you do lucas said he wont film them coz it takes too long. he was going to when he first started phantom menace.
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Post by Austin Tacious on Dec 12, 2004 16:22:51 GMT 1
yeah, the books i told you about are episodes 7 - 9.
you don't need to read any books which take place between EP6 and EP7, as 7-9 were written before the preceding books and so do not rely on furthering their story.
they are definitely worth the read, so go get 'em.
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Post by Aladdin on Dec 12, 2004 16:40:43 GMT 1
i actually borrowed EP 7 from the library aobut 5 years ago, when i was 10. i just got it coz my mum made me, so i only read like the first ten pages. i know it has something to do with Leia's children.
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Post by Austin Tacious on Dec 12, 2004 17:02:32 GMT 1
your mum made you take out a StarWars book?
the best book i ever took out of the library was I Whodini: The Autobiography of A Self Educated Hamster.
i still think it's the best book i ever read. it's out of print now, i think.
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Post by Aladdin on Dec 12, 2004 17:27:52 GMT 1
my mum made me take out a book, i chose star wars.
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Post by brockandsable on Dec 12, 2004 18:46:42 GMT 1
I disagree with this utterly. Most of the books take place after the films, and since they don't contradict the films (except on a few occasions where the book was written before the prequels, and due to crap about clone troopers or goodness knows what else, it doesn't quite add up), then they should be taken as absolute truth, and are taken so by most SW fans I know. So, in answer to Aladdin: Unless you read a novelisation of one of the films, then no, the books will not have the same plot. Technically. Because they go beyond the films, and often surpass them. You're entitled to your opinion; but be that as it may what Lucas says himself on Hyperspace and the DVD extras included with Episode I, II and the DVD Trilogy can't be denied. I'm a big fan myself, but regardless of what you'd like to believe in your head, when it comes straight from the horses mouth it can't be denied.
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Post by Darth Peccatus on Dec 12, 2004 19:39:46 GMT 1
Oh, it can be denied very easily. Considering that Lucas is a wanker and all that. I mean, he calls lightsabers laser swords. The hell? He made the bleedin' things, yet he doesn't know the name?!
And that's beside the point. The point is that the books - and more importantly, the fans - have added more to the SW mythos than Lucas ever has and ever will. Mainly because he's too busy faffing around with 'Annie' and his tangled affairs, of course.
In any case, I'll be happy so long as the bearded git doesn't go and make a sequel trilogy which screws up everything that Timothy Zahn, Kevin J. Anderson, and lord knows how many others took great effort to put together.
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Post by Aladdin on Dec 12, 2004 19:47:00 GMT 1
he isnt going to coz he said it would take too long.
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Post by brockandsable on Dec 12, 2004 19:52:56 GMT 1
Oh, it can be denied very easily. Considering that Lucas is a wanker and all that. I mean, he calls lightsabers laser swords. The hell? He made the bleedin' things, yet he doesn't know the name?! And that's beside the point. The point is that the books - and more importantly, the fans - have added more to the SW mythos than Lucas ever has and ever will. Mainly because he's too busy faffing around with 'Annie' and his tangled affairs, of course. In any case, I'll be happy so long as the bearded git doesn't go and make a sequel trilogy which screws up everything that Timothy Zahn, Kevin J. Anderson, and lord knows how many others took great effort to put together. Sure, deny the guy who made the movies himself. That makes semse. And I thought I made no sense when I drank.
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Post by Darth Peccatus on Dec 12, 2004 21:18:53 GMT 1
Sure, deny the guy who made the movies himself. That makes semse. One of the guys who made the movies, you mean. Now, I'm not gonna knock Lucas' imagination; he's clearly a genius in that regard. But his directing skills are quite sloppy - notice how much better the performances were in Return Of The Jedi and The Empire Strikes Back when compared to A New Hope? And notice that he only directed ANH? You see where I'm going? And Aladdin; I'll believe that if, in twenty years' time, I haven't seen Star Wars 7 being released in cinemas. Until then, I'm going to bet that the idea's fermenting quietly in George's mind.
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Post by Aladdin on Dec 12, 2004 21:21:06 GMT 1
i actually want to see the sequel trilogy, but he said he wouldnt coz it would take too long.
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Post by brockandsable on Dec 12, 2004 21:34:54 GMT 1
Actually he said he wouldn't do it because it did not involve Anakin Skywalker. The whole point of Star Wars is to tell the story of the fall and eventual redemption of Anakin Skywalker. Some people read more into it than there is and take this shit far too serious.
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Post by Aladdin on Dec 12, 2004 23:08:02 GMT 1
But the sequels will involve anakin's offspring and he could make apearance as a ghost thingy like obi wan did.
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Post by brockandsable on Dec 12, 2004 23:59:53 GMT 1
It would be overkill.
Nice sig by the way, Aladdin.
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Post by brockandsable on Dec 15, 2004 19:25:35 GMT 1
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