The WWE Post SummerSlam Discussion

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Fortunate for me, I was able to drive down to Atlantic City's Tropicana last night where they were showing SummerSlam in one of the VIP rooms. I was only able to catch the lasthour and fifteen minutes of the show, but for only $40, you got the show, unlimited drinks and an all you can eat buffet. And the waitresses were sluttier than ever, so it was a good thing. ;D

Let's talk fallout bitches.

Two things really made no sense to me during the "triple main event." I don't understand how Edge didn't get DQ'ed when Lita interfered in the match when two matches earlier, King Booker got DQ'ed for Sharmell doing the exact same thing?

Second, where does Kane factor in to feuding with Umaga? He was the last person I expected to run down and join the frey. The ending of this show was horrible. I haven't seen an ending that bland since SummerSlam 04 where Orton beat Benoit and walked out as champion.

If anyone caught the whole show, feel free to contribute. What did you like? What did you dislike? Have you ever had a threesome in the sand? Tell us. Tell us now.

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Lita did not physically attack Cena. She jumped on Edge's back and was lifted into the FU, but she NEVER touched Cena, so therefore it is not a DQ.

Sharmell, on the other hand, started smacking away at Batista's back, thus getting the DQ.

I enjoyed the ending, to be honest. I thought the ending to that match was well done.

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Did you see Cena's face after Edge won the match? The dirty ending tells me this feud is going to go on and on, just like the Hunter/Rock feud in 1999--2000. If anyone has a download of the beginning of the show that they can send, could you share? I'd really like to see the first part of the show. Thanks, niggas. ;D

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The following notes are from WWE.com:

It appears as if Shawn Michaels suffered an arm/shoulder injury, possibly a stinger, in his match with the McMahons last night. After the match he noticeably couldn't lift his arm/shoulder and there was a lot of concern that it was a serious separation but it appears as if he will be fine.

I heard a rumor that Shawn needed knee surgery at some point in order to continue full time. They may want to consider an injury angle in order for him to rest before these injuries eventually put him out for good. (again)

Mick Foley needed 25-stitches to close his various wounds after the I QUIT match last night.

If anyone has this match, please send it. Not for the blood. Not for the stitches. No even for the match itself. But for Melina.

Triple H was clearly upset that Hulk Hogan "out popped" him at Summerslam.

What an ass. Hunter has yet to accept the fact that he'll never be in the league of Hogan, Austin, Rock or Michaels. Shit, the only reason the fans haven't turned on his chubby ass is because Michaels in next to him.

Triple H's family was ringside last night.

ZZZZZZZZ........

JBL's commentary apparently upset many people within the company last night, especially his comments about Eddie Guerrero falling off the wagon.

This is why we like Layfield. He can generate so much heat just by what he says. Hopefully, the E doesn't take drastic action like the night Bradshaw was in Germany and decide to entertain the fans with the Hitler-two step.

Kurt Angle was originally scheduled to be part of the ECW Title match last night but was removed due to his groin injury. He will work a match at the ECW house show tonight to determine if he is OK to wrestle.

He may be done. Call it a hunch.

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I dont see Angle being around much longer. I can't believe WWE.com posted that HHH was upset about Hogan's pop. Oh well.

I was extremely pissed that Hogan went over Orton. This just proves how much of a dick Hogan is. Orton has a future in the WWE, and Hogan has a past. Who needs to "W" here? But, Hogan having creative control just screws over any star he could put over, and he is a selfish son of a bitch for that. I seriously despise everything about this man now and have lost respect. I was mad last year when he went over Michaels, but at least Michaels doenst have a HUGE future. This was just fucking pathetic, and Hogan should not appear back in a ring unless it is to put someone over. There is no reason for him to win.

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Download needed peeps!

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floorstare said:

I was extremely pissed that Hogan went over Orton. This just proves how much of a dick Hogan is. Orton has a future in the WWE, and Hogan has a past. Who needs to "W" here?.

That's the logic you and I, along with millions of other fans used when predicting the outcome of this match. It is clear now that Vince McMahon will do anything for this man because of what Hogan once did for the company. It has also become abundantly clear as to why Austin refuses to step in the ring with Hogan and give the fans the match they've been dying to see. I wonder how the Rock got over?

[Your Morality Enforcer]

Hogan is the king of politics. If you get the chance to read it, "The Death of WCW" contains a whole host of examples of how he manipulated people to stay at the top. The Rock probably only went over because Hogan was given the belt shortly after. The Rock again only went over at No Way Out so Hogan could beat Vince. He's a clever man, but selfish. While putting over Orton in his mind may have made Randy a true star, it would have done nothing for him, no titles or glory runs or anything, but ended his career, since Orton would have gone on about killing Hulkamania. Of course, tonight Orton may come out and demand a rematch. We'll see.

But Hogan over Orton isn't the worst possible thing that can happen. Hulk is pitching an idea right now that sees him as the "Babe Ruth" of WWE, where he wins the title at Wrestlemania 23, twenty years after his match with Andre. That would be horrible to see.

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reece said:

But Hogan over Orton isn't the worst possible thing that can happen. Hulk is pitching an idea right now that sees him as the "Babe Ruth" of WWE, where he wins the title at Wrestlemania 23, twenty years after his match with Andre. That would be horrible to see.

I dont' know. I might like seeing a Hogan/Edge match. Just for the promos alone. If they allow Edge to go full blown "Rated R Superstar" and shoot on Hogan that would be priceless. Of course I might be the only one that would love to see Edge go off on Hogan

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Hogan over Cena.

It's a nightmare.

But after what happened, I could see that nightmare coming true.

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I doubt Hogan/Cena would be the match, or even Edge/Hogan. They seem keen to make Cena a face at all costs, and vs. Hogan he would be the heel. Edge has his undefeated streak at Wrestlemania, which I reckon WWE will hold onto for a couple more years. They will probably go for Hogan/Big Show somehow, since Big Show is Andre-like and they can hype that Wrestlemania 3 match for the millionth time.

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God, that would be a shit match.

I said Cena because he is RAW's biggest "star" at the moment (at least reaction-wise) and Edge is a possibility because he had multiple orgasms in 2002 when he was allowed to work with Hogan and win the tag titles. The punk ass would cream himself if the opportunity presented itself again. But Big Show v. Hogan? Can Hogan still walk?

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I heard that rumor that Hogan was supposed to slam Big Show at this mania, 20 years after doing it to Andre, and then having both pictures side by side of his slamming eahc of them. It would be kind've cool, to be honest. As long as no title is won by Hogan.

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It would be funny as hell if Hogan broke his back trying to get him up.

Imagine that:

DING, DING, DING...."Hogan is on his feet! Big Show is up as well. Hogan scoops him up, wait a minute, CRRAAAAAAACKKKKKK!!! Oh no, his spinal cord just broke! That's a slobberknocker folks! A real, live slobberknocker!!!

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if only that were to happev

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hahaha, imagine hogan as the ecw champ ;D

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I'm going to have to dissagree with all of the Hogan-hate here. Don't get me wrong, I believe that Orton needed this win, and to be honest, no one has been putting Orton over for two years now. So I seriously believe someone needs to put him over.

But I am kind of sick of hearing people complaining Hogan, saying how he never puts anyone over. People need to realize that big names like Hogan shouldn't put over someone, just because "they're a new breed", or let alone obligated to put over random talent. They only people Hogan should really put over are people who are really worth it. Personally I believe that Orton should have been that, but if that was so he would have to be on a heel level of Triple H (which I think is possible for Orton). But people like Hogan should not be in a obligation to put over anyone. Hogan has put over people in the past, and some were worth it while others turned into a mistake.

My bottom line is that only a selected few big names like The Flair, Undertaker, Sting and The Rock should be put over by Hogan, not every new talent that steps in the ring with him. Hogan wasn't meant to put people over, he was meant to retain the value to his name.

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Maybe, but at this age, having gained so much from wrestling, he has a moral responsibility to allow the new breed to gain prestige from him. You can probably count the people he has put over on both hands. Don't forget, when Hogan came in, many older guys put him over.

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Hogan wouldnt be as big as he is without great talent that put him over and made him look good. Guys like Dibiase, Savage, Roberts, Andre . . . these guys helped solidify his career in a great way.

People need to realize that big names like Hogan shouldn't put over someone

If that was the case, then there would never be the chance for anyone to be bigger than Hogan, which is definetly a mistake. Anyways, Hogan should be putting over people all of the time. How can you say he shouldnt? I mean, the guy appears once or twice a year, why should he be winning matches? It's not like he can capitalize off of it and help it build his career. He should've job to HBK, Orton, Hassan . . . all of those guys for the simple fact that they could've capitalized off of it and actually gone somewhere with the win. Hogan's career is where it's going to stay, and there is no need for him to go over anyone, unless it's in the rare instance of facing someone like Vince.

I think Shawn Michaels siad it best on the night after Summerslam 2005. "Did you fans enjoy seeing Hulk Hogan beat me?" *fans cheer* "And where is he now? Hogan is on a plane going home to stay there for another 6 months until he feels like coming back, but HBK is here to entertain you like he does EVERY SINGLE NIGHT!"

Ecos, This wouldnt bother me half as much if Hogan didnt have complete creative control, cause it shows what a selfish bitch he is. Icons should be trying to put over the new talent so that they have the chance to be an Icon themselves. I mean, how do you think guys like Hogan, Savage, Flair, Undertaker, Warrior, Hart, Michaels, Stone Cold, and The Rock became Icons? They became Icons by feuding with and defeating already established names. < -- That speaks volumes about what Hogan cares about, cause it shows he cares more about his image than the future of the business.

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Hogan sucks, he thinks his name is still a major factor to selling tickets, where as thats when i usually go put the kettle on as i dont want to see the same 5 moves and him "hulking up" anymore.

I know its scripted but damm 30 years and he still does the same thing, in the same order, gets pummeled, shakes, points, punches, big boot, leg drop, 6 months off.

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yeah, a big boot like that

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You know I'm a Hogan fan but have to admit I'm sick of seeing him wrestle. I wouldn't mind seeing him in a manager type roll but that's about it.

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Interesting possible spoiler for the main event at Unforgiven. Highlight below to read.

credit: lordsofpain.net

LOP reader Rob Tawse sent in the following:

I watch Raw on the TV channel The Score in Canada and there was a promo for the supershow in Montreal the following night after Unforgiven. There was a montage of Raw Superstars followed by a montage of Smackdown Superstars and John Cena's photo was with the Smackdown Superstars.This leads one to believe that John Cena is going to Smackdown.

[KillerSundin (Formerly HBK)]

^ Kind of saw that one coming.